Comments on: More Details on Sugar Loaf Plans

By: UP_Skier

UP_Skier — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:53:23 +0000

Bsisco, You're more than welcome to come up to the UP for some great snow and skiing. If you're going to do Bohemia, I'd recommend that you have your health and/or life insurance in place;) Another great hill is Marquette Mountain. They've done a lot of improvements the last ten years, the runs are challenging, and the views of Lake Superior and the city of Marquette from the top are gorgeous. The only draw back to UP skiing is the lift technology is a bit outdated (no high speed lifts, and very few triples or quads, but with fewer skiers on the hill that's not a big deal).

Does anyone know if there has been any new developements or improvements happening at Sugar Loaf?

By: bsisco

bsisco — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:20:45 +0000

After reading the history and current events of the current owner(kate)I can only hope to make a run down awful awful ever again.There are more diversified dreams than Boyne,Vail,and Intrawest combined.Without any resort management experience a co-op like Mad River would have a better chance.It's too bad but for the near term the 'Loaf will have to stay on the Midwest Lost Ski Area(MLSA)list.If the Big Guys are giving away golf and ski packages in northern Mi. I don't see a woman with 25 yrs. of drug rehab experience reopening the bullwheels(or putting up a couple high speed quads)in this increasingly environmental and litigous society.In the mean time we will have to support Nubs and make a road trip to check out Bohemia.We will keep an eye on this interesting drama but the old schoolers just want to ski and make first tracks.Will always remember the Hall doubles and the aspects(exposures) of the 'Loaf with the Lake view.I will do Homestead for a mini reminder of what used to be.B.S.

By: UP_Skier

UP_Skier — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:16:22 +0000

I'm no longer in the Leelanau area, and don't remember too much of the lay of the land for the resort. Regarding the area being cut, is it on the proposed site for the campground? Not that I think a campground at a SKI resort makes much sense, but it would make sense to thin an area of trees if a campground is going in. Or does it appear to be a clear-cut for a timber sale? I'd have a hard time taking anything Kate says at face value anymore, but if the current work is tree-thinning for the campground, however misguided, at least some plans would be followed through. If on the other hand it appears to be a timber sale, then it would seem that short-term cash is on the agenda. I just hope for the sake of the resort there are no mineral deposits or oil wells in the hill:)

By: Chris Hughes

Chris Hughes — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:35:09 +0000

I'm not sure what to think (or wish) anymore. I have tried to remain optimistic of Kate's intentions since she took over, thinking we were lucky she had come to the rescue. Unfortunately, the "rescue" has been cloaked in secrecy and inaction.

As there have been as many opinions as facts to go around I thought I would report some of the latest facts:

As of two or three weeks ago the wooded area that was the cross country ski trail "Double Dipper" in the far southern woods across the service road is now being cut down from the inside out, hidden from view. The "new" property at Bodus and 651 is also going through the same fate.

So we must ask: why is the only action going on at Sugar Loaf for the last 16 months the destruction of priceless remote forests and trails? If someone truly wanted to reopen the resort wouldn't they focus on getting the resort up and running first? Also, why destroy pristine forest when there is plenty of open, less wooded land available?

One good fact is that for the first time I actually saw some workers walking around the inside last week.

What does this all mean? That we can't take anything for granted and that anyone who is or used to be a "Sugar Loafer" needs to get involved to make sure one of our counties greatest assets isn't permanently destroyed by short term thinking and development. We must take the cloak off of Kate's true plans and intentions.

If not, it will be awful, awful to lose such a piece of our heritage.

By: Andrew McFarlane

Andrew McFarlane — Fri, 19 May 2006 12:31:06 +0000

I would have posted it yesterday but thought the Asparagus Festival was more pressing. You gotta check out Seth & Daisy May - You'll love them! (the link above goes to some videos - check out Shine On)

By: Bryanp

Bryanp — Fri, 19 May 2006 04:34:01 +0000

Andy, there is another article in today's Enterprise http://www.leelanaunews.com/editorial.php?id=2206
This one is from the course owners perspective. Much of the article reiterates one of my earlier
posts.

By: UP_Skier

UP_Skier — Wed, 17 May 2006 17:17:40 +0000

Forgot to ask, does anybody know if Kate has even pursued acquiring a liquor license for the resort yet? Although I suppose that would be putting the cart before the horse since the remodeling hasn't even started yet.

By: UP_Skier

UP_Skier — Wed, 17 May 2006 17:13:57 +0000

I had posted a message on a different thread a while back (before the unveiling of the plans for the 'new and improved' Sugar Loaf) about a new llc formed in Florida and registered in Michigan named Sugar Loaf 160 LLC. It appears to be owned by a self proclaimed real estate guru named Ron LeGrand. It was formed in November of '05, does anybody know if this llc is connected to the golf course, or is it connected to the new plans and developements proposed for the hill and resort? It will be interesting to see how this plays out, I hope whatever happens it will be to the benefit of the people of Leelanau County.

By: goski

goski — Tue, 16 May 2006 18:12:45 +0000

Yes Aggie, truth is stranger than fiction. If anyone believes that Kate is doing this to benefit the citizens of Leelanau county and we will be skiing there next season, then I have a bridge about two hours north of here to sell you. Kate recently got huffy with an Enterprise reporter and told him that her finances were her personal business. I'll bet Polselli thought that too, until the State of Michigan revoked his liquor license. Who would have thought that Kate would go from hero to zero in only fourteen months? Hey Kate, it's time to flip it, please.

By: Bryanp

Bryanp — Tue, 16 May 2006 13:14:46 +0000

This is a matter of public record - so I am not revealing anything that is not known; only
a little hidden from view. First, Kate remains in default of her debt to the sewer company
(which is owned by the golf course owners - Brian and Ed). It amounts to about $90,000
plus interest. Second, there is mediation taking place presently in Traverse City between
Schmidt/Coldwell Bankers and Ms. Wickstrom over the sales commission from her purchase of
Sugar Loaf. It seems there was a buyers contract and that she simply has decided not to
pay the roughly $300,000 in commissions due on the sale. The impression is that she doesn't
have it. They don't meet again until mid-summer. Perhaps a means of satisfying her debt
and finding some backing for her proposed "project" is to cut Schmidt Realtors in on the
deal and have them assist in financing the effort. More to follow. Third, I didn't believe
she would do it based on her word, but, we know where that has gotten us....Supposedly, this
has already been discussed and is being seriously considered by Ms. Wickstrom. Additional
Sugar Loaf property exists at the SE corner of Bodus and CR651, across for Sugarfoots.
THAT is the location being proposed for her Narcon site! The cause for concern and doubt
continues to rise. Her goodwill has evaporated and we are back to a "show-me" state.

By: polarbear925

polarbear925 — Sat, 13 May 2006 20:03:52 +0000

As a former Sugarloaf employee, I sincerely hope she can pull it
off and get the mountain up and running again.

I had given Kate a resume' in hopes of being a part of the revival
of The Loaf, but never heard back. I had all kinds of ideas for
the on-hill facilities that I wanted to pass along for
consideration.

Question for the sake of clarification: the proposed boarders-only terrain park area - is that
an idea for the Lift 6 area or for the area on skier's right of
Lift 1? One of the ideas I had was to put a decent halfpipe in on
the far side on Sugar Loafer.

Would love to discuss some ideas for on-hill fixes and improvements with anyone
that is interested in throwing ideas around. Who knows? Maybe we
can pass our ideas along for consideration by Kate and her crew.

Keep your tips up, friends!

Karl K.

By: Aggie1

Aggie1 — Sat, 13 May 2006 01:46:14 +0000

I never imagined that this would stay this bizarre for so long.

This is totally mind boggling.

The day this plan gets off the ground will be the day pigs fly.